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¿Qué es eviivo?

Este paquete de software fácil de usar hace que sea sencillo para los anfitriones y los hoteleros tomar reservas, anunciar y actualizar las tarifas en las principales OTA y tomar pagos en conformidad con PCI. El paquete eviivo permite que los propietarios de alojamiento independientes aumenten las reservas en línea a través de cientos de sitios web diferentes y luego los administren en un solo lugar, lo que les da más tiempo para cuidar de sí mismos o atender a sus huéspedes. eviivo trabaja con más de 12 000 propiedades independientes y fabulosas en toda Europa, desde majestuosos castillos hasta alojamientos frente a la playa.

¿Quién usa eviivo?

Entre los 16 000 clientes, se encuentran alojamientos, casas de huéspedes, pubs y posadas, restaurantes con habitaciones, apartamentos con servicios, villas y casas de campo y hostales. Cada uno es tan individual y único como las personas que los dirigen.

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Evaluación media

En general
4,1
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4,0
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4,1
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4,0
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4,0

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Fernando
Director en España
Contabilidad, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

Muy buen channel manager

5,0 hace 3 años

Puntos a favor:

La sincronización con las plataformas, la comodidad la programación de la mensajería, etc

Contras:

Estamos a la espera del asistente de precios.

Paco
R en España
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

Buen PMS, servicio pésimo

3,0 hace 3 años

Puntos a favor:

Relativamente fácil de usar, control bastante elevado de todos los parámetros de tu propiedad

Contras:

El servicio técnico, casi inexistente. Cuenta semanas conseguir que te atiendan

Juan Manuel
gerente en España
Hostelería, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

Software util y funcional.

4,0 hace 4 años

Comentarios: satisfactoria.

Puntos a favor:

funcionalidad y opciones en general para el cambio de tarifas, información visual y agilidad.

Contras:

Tener que crear canales específicos para Airbnb y VRBO. Limitación en el tipo de promociones a realizar. Dificultades y errores cuando se utiliza la web a través del móvil.

Nikki Louise
Nikki Louise
Director's Assistant en RU
Usuario de Linkedin verificado
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Highly Recommend

5,0 hace 3 años

Comentarios: Our overall experience with eviivo has been great so far, in the short time we have been using the system we have had a much better experience and more benefits compared to our previous system and look forward to using more of the tools and reports provided by the system which we haven't got round to using yet.

Puntos a favor:

I like how easy the view of the dashboard is and how there are separate categories views such as "Actions" which shows you any cancelled bookings, deposits due, cards declined or over bookings. It also has a lot of reporting tools you can use which is a bonus for us from our last system that failed us.

Contras:

A feature we miss having is the fact to move bookings in the system. Sometimes we have issues with a property such as a boiler break down and have to move them to another property but we can't move the booking in the system to allow our cleaners to see the changes and what needs cleaned, we need to just block it off and manually tell them.

Usuario verificado
Usuario de Linkedin verificado
Hostelería, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: 6-12 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Alternativas consideradas:

great over all PMS

5,0 hace 4 años

Comentarios: There was no PMS in place when I purchased the inn. eviivo has allowed me to run reservations much better than the previous owner.

Puntos a favor:

Very easy to setup and use. Intuitive GUI. Company is always working to add new features.

Contras:

The Group Booking function is a bit clunky to apply discounts or promotions I have to touch each individual room booked, not at a group level, yet I can attribute payment on one to cover all.

Amy
Owner, Marketing Manager en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Prueba gratis
Fuente de la reseña

Not a good experience

3,0 hace 2 años

Comentarios: Bad. Just not acceptable. As a business owner who used to manage websites, social media, and online marketing for clients, communication was unacceptable. I got my website up and working in less than 24 hours with another provider. It looked how I wanted and had capabilities that I was working with Eviivo to get for almost a month. While we started strong , lack of communication when your website isn't working, the SSL is broken, does not work when you need to have your website live to take bookings and make money. I feel like I wasted a month of my time that I could have been making money.

Puntos a favor:

Their system is very thorough in gathering information. A lot of detail and in depth planning, but takes a lot of time. Their integration seemed good but I didn't complete and bookings that way.

Contras:

Customer service and onboarding was awful. Getting help, whether a small question or pushing a button to activate something was like pulling teeth. They had folks on chat support but they always said I needed to talk to my onboarding agent who didn't reply to emails or answer my questions. I got very simple, template like replies, like "just click here and here." Instead of helping me set up website capabilities on the back end (HTML) or scheduling a meeting. As a client, I should never have to wait more than 24 hours for a reply when onboarding. If you're busy, just reply and set up a call. If you're on vacation, have an away message.

Dean
Owner en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

best of all

5,0 el año pasado

Comentarios: We have used several channels managers and Eviivo has by far been the best we have ever used. The team is great, caring and willing to help. The system is easy to use and has many great features. I would recommend Eviivo to any one.

Puntos a favor:

We have used many channels managers, we have been most satisfied with Eviivo. Friendly team always willing to help. We love how easy Eviivo is to use and the many upgrades over the years. If I had to pick one thing I like the most besides the team, it is the depndable and easy to use calendar.

Contras:

I wish I could think of something to be critical of but there is nothing.

Kathleen
Owner Operator en Canadá
Servicios e instalaciones recreativas, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

Eviivo saves our precious time

5,0 hace 12 meses

Comentarios: We are very grateful to everyone at Eviivo

Puntos a favor:

Julie who takes care of us responds promptly and is amazing and kind.

Contras:

Can't think of anything that has been difficult

Bethany
Propert Manager en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 6-12 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Great property mgmt system

5,0 hace 6 meses

Puntos a favor:

The live support and the quick help with every question I have.

Contras:

No complaints. Some limitations in reporting but support helped us find a different way.

Rick
owner en EE. UU.
Propiedad inmobiliaria, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

Great Product, Great People

5,0 hace 6 meses

Comentarios: fantastic support channels via chat (and phone when allowed)

Puntos a favor:

channel integration within Google, Hotels.Com, Expedia, VRBO, etc.

Contras:

software glitches in rate plan management and screens. Would also be great to activate and deactivate a plan (vs delete and recreate only)

Chris
Director en RU
Ocio, viajes y turismo, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Efficient service

5,0 hace 9 meses

Comentarios: Positive. Just a few little things to overcome as I get used to the system.

Puntos a favor:

Combining all the other platforms and ease of use on mobile

Contras:

Customer service when having an issue - left waiting in chat room for long periods of time.

steve
boss en RU
Servicios para instalaciones, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

review ***

5,0 hace 5 meses

Comentarios: brilliant that's it

Puntos a favor:

their support is second to none

Contras:

no sand box environment to see what the client experiences when making changes to temple emails timing etc

Andy
Owner en EE. UU.
Ocio, viajes y turismo, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Rude customer service

1,0 hace 11 meses

Comentarios: I used hotel.com to book a stay. I paid hotel.com and received my receipt. However, I received a 2nd receipt from Enviilvo.com and that receipt was over $20 higher than the hotel.com booking. I called hotel.com which told me the only booking they had was the 1st one & told me to call Enviilo. When I called Enviilo, I got a "customer service" rep. named [sensitive content hidden]. [sensitive content hidden] was very rude, and loud. When I tried to explain the situation, [sensitive content hidden] kept interrupting, talking over me, & refused to listen to anything I had to say. I told her that I thought she was being rude, and her only response was "Thank you." I still don't know why I was double billed, what I will be billed, or whether I will be billed twice for the same stay.

Puntos a favor:

Nothing - I didn't request it, but received a receipt for a bill which was more than $20 more than the same billing I got directly from Hotels.com

Contras:

Extremely RUDE "customer service." Actually no customer service at all only, just someone who yelled at me, refused to listen to my problem & basically talked to me as though she thought she was my superior.

Tegan
Wedding Coordinator en EE. UU.
Organización de eventos, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

THANK YOU [sensitive content hidden]!!

5,0 hace 9 meses

Puntos a favor:

[sensitive content hidden] saved the day for me and our couple today.

Contras:

Maybe allow simple editing capabilities when doing room "Block" bookings, especially for our type of venue that has two lodging properties

Tim
Founder en RU
Propiedad inmobiliaria, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Great product design, Fantastic people, great service

5,0 hace 2 años

Comentarios: Fantastic, fantastic support team, can't commend them enough. They Listen, they Care, They Help, They are friendly, and they are relatable - genuinely impressed with everyone I have spoken with. Everyone that picks up your call is patient and professional and, how they lead you to your solution is just remarkable.They have a computer-say-yes attitude. They are humans, they do not act like 'robotic people' in customer service centers.As a start-up, we used eviiio and would definitely recommend it.

Puntos a favor:

Fantastic, fantastic support team, can't commend them enough. They Listen, they Care, They Help, They are friendly, and they are relatable - genuinely impressed with everyone I have spoken with, including the finance/payment teams - great humans.Everyone that picks up your call is patient and professional and, how they lead you to your solution is just remarkable.They have a computer-say-yes attitude. They are humans, they do not act like 'robotic people' in customer service centers.As a start-up, we used eviiio and would definitely recommend it.

Contras:

I think eviivo may need to hire more great people (like they already have) because it seems just too busy, and too much volume for single Account/Set Up/Go Live Managers. The Managers clearly do their very best to help you Go Live and deliver great service while doing so - but one can tell they are kind of overworked.

George
Manager en RU
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

Good customer support

4,0 hace 2 años

Comentarios: Helps us centralize the management of our hotel

Puntos a favor:

The Live Chat support is fairly quick and helpful. There are also lots of resources to learn how to use the software and free classes to learn with an expert.

Contras:

1. It would be beneficial if eviivo had a dedicated account manager for users to contact direct for that added personal support. 2. More third party integrations / a site where users can vote and see upcoming integrations to be added to eviivo.

Michael
owner B&B en Francia
Ocio, viajes y turismo, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

My review

4,0 hace 2 años

Comentarios: Generally a good experience apart from the avbove mentioned points

Puntos a favor:

In general relatively easy to use and stable. No serious problem so far which is the basis for this type of product

Contras:

- Sometimes a bit sow- I requested an alternative way of displaying the availability on the web but so far no response - messages to customers could a little bit more modern and flexible (pictures, titles...)

Steve
Director en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

White Pine camps review of the Eviivo booking engine.

4,0 hace 2 años

Comentarios: The transition from Weberations to Eviivo was horrible at first, given the terrible customer support at the time. But after the Austin support group was staffed and trained it has become one of the best support groups we experiance and is far superior to the OTA's Airbnb, Booking.com or VRBO's . Hats off to the current support group.

Puntos a favor:

Robust functionality and the quality and quantity of the available support

Contras:

Customers are not presented an overall view like the Planner view and are frequently confused by Eviivo's presenting properties that are not available after they specify dates and capacity needs. Customer reach out to us and complain about the process and we have to spend time with them to help and explain. When glitches and bugs occur in the software ( Like the event when Payments stopped or deposits suddenly included taxes) it takes far too long to correct the issue., (often 3 weeks+)

Respuesta de eviivo

hace 2 años

Steve, Thank you for taking the time to review. We appreciate the candor. A couple items of note. First...your observation about our robust functionality / ease of use dilemma is common. eviivo literally has more than 30 software engineers that are constantly working on the platform. We purposely focused on making the platform more comprehensive from the beginning. Recently, we have worked just as hard to improve the ease of use & to improve our training. These improvements are continuing. In regards to your reference to the payments issue that occurrred, please note that was an issue with a merchant provider partner...not with eviivo. In fact, it was eviivo who pressed and found the issue on behalf of you and others. Lastly, we really appreciate your call out of our support team's performance. In fact, Capterra users have done the same calling out eviivo's support team as much better than industry average. Thank you for your continued patronage!

Christina
owner/ manager en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

Good software selection for a B&B

4,0 hace 4 años

Comentarios: We have found that the software is easy to use for us, and as time goes on they continue to update their software in ways that improve our experience as Hoteliers. We appreciate that they hear our feedback and are always working on ways to improve. We do not take full advantage of all that the software offers, such as the webpage, since we do not know how it would integrate into our google business app which is imperative to us to track our data. We would consider exploring this component more in the future, especially if video content was allowable. ie the possibility of adding 360 degree video for each room,and other videos of our property.

Puntos a favor:

We like color-coded diary, the app lets you know if money is due, able to search for reservations in many ways, good selection of reports, the software is updated often to add new features and fix glitches, able to view and use on multiple devices. We are usually able to chat with customer service in 10 min or less, and they are (mostly) helpful with our issues.We have been having to reach out to Customer Service less and less.

Contras:

Sometimes we have issues with the integration to our merchant account, when we enter the same info into Eviivo it fails, but when we enter it into the merchant account directly it works. Also the templates for the customer communication emails are awkward(perhaps due to British English or British preferences) and guests are confused. Thirdly it is impossible to enter our specific cancellation policy into the options that the software has for us, they say that it is because of the OTA preferrances, but in the end we have 2 cancellation policies, one for the OTA reservations and one for those who book directly with us. Of course they are both written on the confirmation letter and cause confusion.

Audrey
EE. UU.
Usuario de Linkedin verificado
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña
Fuente: GetApp

Eviivo has been Very Harmful to our Business since Going Live

1,0 hace 6 años

Puntos a favor:

There are some useful software features to optimize OTA listings. Being able to manage multiple properties from one account is helpful.

Contras:

Eviivo has been very harmful to our business since our Go Live date on 1/28/19. We expected that the Go Live process wouldn't be perfect, but their complete lack of customer support and communication concerning very urgent issues is unacceptable. Our properties are actively losing revenue every day this continues. Our customer service is suffering. We are unable to complete accounting reports and prepare monthly tax liabilities. For a company whose self-proclaimed mission is "to champion the independent sector and help small hotels, B&Bs, and accommodation providers succeed online", it is unsettling that our repeated requests for technical support have gone ignored. By limiting their clients' ability to govern their own account settings, Eviivo has made itself essential in this process. Not responding to support requests or even acknowledging them is simply unacceptable. The magnitude of the switchover from ReZovation is irrelevant; Eviivo imposed this deadline on its customers, not the other way around. The setup process was focused on making sure our properties were optimized for OTA searches rather than ensuring that our understanding of the process was clear. Most of the initial calls were a checklist to make sure we had pictures uploaded and amenities selected. Eviivo did not mention that we wouldn't be able to access something as fundamental as a Revenue Report or Occupancy Report without upgrading to the premium subscription rates. Eviivo does not understand their clientele; proactive customer service and guest recovery are important factors that differentiate small hotels from the large brands. Support isn't even available after business hours-- their business hours, not ours. Eviivo's website states that they have a guaranteed 24hr turnaround for their Support Query. Our guarantee has not been met several times over. Eviivo's indifference is inexcusable.

Respuesta de eviivo

hace 6 años

Hi Audrey, We're sorry to hear of the difficulties you experienced with getting help when you migrated across to eviivo suite from Rezo. We experienced some difficulties in being able to get back to customers during this period and apologise for the service level during this time If you'd like to discuss this with us personally please do provide us with some contact details and we'll be in touch. Regards, eviivo

Tiggy
Owner en RU
Hostelería, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

My Eviivo review

4,0 hace 4 años

Comentarios: I was asked, a few years ago, to do a filmed review for Eviivo. No problems until I was asked about support given to us by Eviivo! I indicated that they should miss that question! I really didn’t want to give such a negative reply, the only one I could give at the time!
If I was to repeat the performance I would now be able to praise the support with live chat when you need it and the list of most asked questions answered etc.
Well done Eviivo for listening!

Puntos a favor:

The Eviivo diary and booking procedure are very easy to use and have improved with additional options especially making group bookings. I can see at a glance what rooms I have available and bookings I have.

Contras:

The area I find harder to use is setting up special offers, discounts etc. I have done it but often have to get help from chat room or phone. This tends to put me off setting these up.

Diane
Owner/operator en Canadá
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de un año
Fuente de la reseña

Poor customer service!

2,0 hace 4 años

Comentarios: Very unhappy customer! I am going through a very challenging time with trying to cancel my service with your company. My partner has bone marrow cancer and is currently in the hospital having a bone marrow transplant and we will not be continuing with doing our accommodations because of health reasons and Covid. It has also not been very effective for a sm business from the start. I have talked to numerous employees and the last person I talked to said that there would not be additional charges for extenuating services yet I continue to be billed and charged. Please comply with what I was told by your employee.
This is now taken up more time and energy at a very stressful time!

Puntos a favor:

I did not like this software. Now it will not even let me send in this review.

Contras:

Not user friendly. Frustrating now as it will not send without putting more info in.

Respuesta de eviivo

hace 4 años

Hi Diane. First, let me express my sympathies for what you and your partner are going through currently. I do hope a healthy recovery is in order for you. In regards to your termination, we actually responded immediately with your termination request within our contractual agreement with you which is an industry standard 90-day termination. That said, due to your unfortunate circumstances, we did make an exception and reduced the termination notification period to 1 month. As a 2+ year customer of eviivo, you should also be aware we always bill 30 days in arrears...which means the bill that you received in July was your last bill from us. When you migrated from the previous product back in 2019, we offered a very stripped down version of eviivo that did not have most of our awared-winning functionality built into it. In retrospect, allowing you to not have Channel Manager, as an example to increase your occupancy, probably did you no favors. I will call you to discuss.

Isuru
Senior Software Engineer en Sri Lanka
Software informático, 201-500 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: 6-12 meses
Fuente de la reseña

Overall a quality product

4,0 hace 8 años

Comentarios: I was looking for a channel manager solution for one of my friend who runs a small hotel which has 4 different rooms. We were getting bookings from Airbnb, Booking.com, Agoda, Expedia and having troubles to update each and every calendar manually. Especially during the high season. I was looking for the cheapest channel manager and the Xotelia was the one. They don't have many features but definitely, cater our requirement. Initially, setup was bit painful because we had to enter all existing bookings into an excel file and then upload. Most of other channel managers like SabeeApp.com had cool features like importing all existing bookings automatically so that we don't have to do a thing. But anyway once this painful setup is over, everything works as expected. We were having some troubles when sending rates and availability to Airbnb channel. Then found out Airbnb has some high restrictions, so due to that reason Xotelia was so buggy. But it is resolved now. Now my friend who runs the hotel receive an email every morning, which room is free today, to which room guests are going to arrive today and their phone no etc.... We don't use a PMS, but this channel manager works like a one. When it comes to Customer Support, I think they are having very few number of people so, if you make a skype chat you will probably get a reply on next date. The email support also takes time unless you bug them all the time like I do. We can forget that delay in customer support because we hardly have to use them after the initial integration. The only drawback I see in this system is this is not mobile friendly. Since this is a web-based system, this doesn't display nicely on your iPhone (I double in iPad as well). You have to have a laptop with you if you are doing changes every time. But that also ok, because we get a mobile friendly email every morning that does the job.

Puntos a favor:

Email sent in every morning about room status. Who is in the room, when they are going to leave, and who are going to arrive today.

Contras:

Website is not mobile friendly, and there is no mobile application as well.

Respuesta de eviivo

hace 8 años

Hi Isuru, Thank you very much for your email. We are very glad to hear that you are very happy using the Xotelia solution. We appreciate all the constructive comments and will use it to improve our solution. Kind regards, The Xotelia Team

John
Owner en EE. UU.
Hostelería, 2-10 empleados
Ha utilizado el software durante: Más de dos años
Fuente de la reseña

Feedback

4,0 hace 3 años

Comentarios: The Eviivo university is a great resource as are the master classes. The communication has been excellent. The team works together to resolve our issues. Their accessibility helps resolve issues quickly. They clearly explain the solutions to our problems. The staff of [SENSITIVE CONTENT] have all been clear, thorough and friendly. I have worked with others but mostly with this group. When cases are created we are sure to get notification of the process and or resolution. The continuing improvements have made the suite even easier to use and address issues that I'm sure where flagged by users. The extensive reports page covers everything we need to run our inn. The app has a had time connecting to the server and we cannot use the app to book with a guest while on the phone.

Puntos a favor:

The ease of understanding. User friendly. Comprehensiveness.

Contras:

Integration was bumping due to lack of staffing during merge from Resovations.

Dawn
Innkeeper/Special Event Coordinator en EE. UU.
Hostelería, Trabajador autónomo
Ha utilizado el software durante: 1-5 meses
Fuente de la reseña

"Less is More"

1,0 hace 6 años

Comentarios: *80% of the required information, including images of the property and rooms, already lists on the perspective clients website, therefore this is redundant and nonessential.
*Eviivo is merely the reservations booking engine for a company, who already has a website, therefore the format and the content of the entire booking engine should be MUCH more simplistic. The plethora of "bells & whistles" is unnecessary and creates additional input work for the client.
*A considerable amount of the lodging verbiage used for descriptions of the property and rooms is not relevant to businesses located in the USA.
The tactic of forcing clients to convert by a specific date is unprofessional conduct on the part of Eviivo. Shutting down a client's current booking engine prematurely, prior to sorting out migration "bugs" and issues, will definitely cause a substantial loss of revenue for the client. In addition, Customer Support should be available during USA business hours, not UK ones; with extended after-hours support available during the initial migration phase, at the very least.

Puntos a favor:

Thus far...nothing. After reading all of the online reviews, I am extremely concerned about loosing business and revenue, by being forced to switch to Eviivo, from Webervations, which I am VERY happy with.

Contras:

*required input of redundant information, which already lists on my business website (pictures & property/room details) *lack of tech support *the current format is not user friendly; needs to be much more simplistic *system does not allow a party of 2 guests to book a larger room (Booking Engine will only display available rooms that match the number of guests) *lack of pricing breakdown for individual dates, when multiple dates are booked *lodging verbiage which is irrelevant to businesses located in the USA

Respuesta de eviivo

hace 6 años

Hi Dawn, We're sorry to hear of the difficulties you experienced with getting help when you migrated across to eviivo suite from Webervations. We experienced some difficulties in being able to get back to customers during this period and apologise for the service level during this time If you'd like to discuss this with us personally please do provide us with some contact details and we'll be in touch. Regards, eviivo